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		<title>By: Radar Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radar Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US Cheetah Rep has a bra on his Toyota that is black and yes it is very effective.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US Cheetah Rep has a bra on his Toyota that is black and yes it is very effective.</p>
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		<title>By: FG</title>
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		<dc:creator>FG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has there ever been a test using a Car Bra (frontal car cover black)against laser, inconjunction with veil or jammer
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has there ever been a test using a Car Bra (frontal car cover black)against laser, inconjunction with veil or jammer</p>
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		<title>By: Laser Jammers GOL 2008 Being Tested - Page 5 - Radar Detector Jammer Forum</title>
		<link>http://www.radardetector.org/veil-g4-and-zr4-follow-up/#comment-457</link>
		<dc:creator>Laser Jammers GOL 2008 Being Tested - Page 5 - Radar Detector Jammer Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Roy got some pretty amazing results with Veil here:  Veil G4 and ZR4 Follow-Up  Are there any plans to run tests first with an un-veiled target vehicle and then later after all [...]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Roy got some pretty amazing results with Veil here:  Veil G4 and ZR4 Follow-Up  Are there any plans to run tests first with an un-veiled target vehicle and then later after all [...]</p>
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		<title>By: noob question plz assist, mainly veil related - Radar Detector Reviews</title>
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		<dc:creator>noob question plz assist, mainly veil related - Radar Detector Reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to be as clear cut as possible:  1. since veilg4 has been averaging PTs @ 175ft on the black stang: Veil G4 and ZR4 Follow-Up can we expect similar/higher/lower PTs with this car (300zx, NOT nsx) Forza Motorsport 2 - Brian [...]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to be as clear cut as possible:  1. since veilg4 has been averaging PTs @ 175ft on the black stang: Veil G4 and ZR4 Follow-Up can we expect similar/higher/lower PTs with this car (300zx, NOT nsx) Forza Motorsport 2 &#8211; Brian [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Esoterica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esoterica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A? I missing something here or did the color of the vehicle have a bigger impact than the use if veil?

Looks to me, if you drive a white vehicle you&#039;re better off paying for a black paint job than buying veil, your results from this according to these test results will be significantly better.

&quot;aiming at the drivers side headlamp&quot;...

If you were aiming at only the headlight how did the color of the vehicle make any difference at all?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A? I missing something here or did the color of the vehicle have a bigger impact than the use if veil?</p>
<p>Looks to me, if you drive a white vehicle you&#8217;re better off paying for a black paint job than buying veil, your results from this according to these test results will be significantly better.</p>
<p>&#8220;aiming at the drivers side headlamp&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>If you were aiming at only the headlight how did the color of the vehicle make any difference at all?</p>
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		<title>By: Radar Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radar Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 03:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Toyota was white (hardest color) and the Mustang was black (easiest color)

The data from the test(s) shows a significant reduction using Veil on both vehicles
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Toyota was white (hardest color) and the Mustang was black (easiest color)</p>
<p>The data from the test(s) shows a significant reduction using Veil on both vehicles</p>
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		<title>By: Escort 95000ci Radar Detector and LPP Laser Jammer - Page 2 - Radar Detector Reviews</title>
		<link>http://www.radardetector.org/veil-g4-and-zr4-follow-up/#comment-453</link>
		<dc:creator>Escort 95000ci Radar Detector and LPP Laser Jammer - Page 2 - Radar Detector Reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 16:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tearing it apart, both front and rear.    Any solid data to back this up? From the data that I see here and here that is not the case. BTW-please note the difference a cars color makes in the test [...]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] tearing it apart, both front and rear.    Any solid data to back this up? From the data that I see here and here that is not the case. BTW-please note the difference a cars color makes in the test [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mjbuzby</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 17:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can we see that same setup on the sequioa w a front tag?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can we see that same setup on the sequioa w a front tag?</p>
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		<title>By: Radar Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radar Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 07:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Veil is a &quot;passive&quot; coating so there will be no jamming codes received by the laser gun.

You could press the power button on the ZR3 shifter to power the unit off. Also the shifter is designed to jam after a threat is received.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Veil is a &#8220;passive&#8221; coating so there will be no jamming codes received by the laser gun.</p>
<p>You could press the power button on the ZR3 shifter to power the unit off. Also the shifter is designed to jam after a threat is received.</p>
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		<title>By: wayup_north</title>
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		<dc:creator>wayup_north</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iS it really true that veil doesn&#039;t cause e4 and j3 jam codes to appear on the lasers that can detect that they are being jammed? (like the stalker, laser tech, laser atlanta, riegl)

I sometimes have to drive through other countries where jammers are illegal (carry demerit points) and having something that does&#039;t cause repeated e4 codes which is a dead giveaway to jammer is absolutely neccessary.

Is there an easy way to turn off the shifting function of the ZR4 after you slowed down and didn&#039;t need or want the active protection?

If so, can the ZR-4 still alert to laser (like a detector) while not attempting to jam it?

Thanks in advance.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iS it really true that veil doesn&#8217;t cause e4 and j3 jam codes to appear on the lasers that can detect that they are being jammed? (like the stalker, laser tech, laser atlanta, riegl)</p>
<p>I sometimes have to drive through other countries where jammers are illegal (carry demerit points) and having something that does&#8217;t cause repeated e4 codes which is a dead giveaway to jammer is absolutely neccessary.</p>
<p>Is there an easy way to turn off the shifting function of the ZR4 after you slowed down and didn&#8217;t need or want the active protection?</p>
<p>If so, can the ZR-4 still alert to laser (like a detector) while not attempting to jam it?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance.</p>
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